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Monday, August 01, 2005

By HIS Stripes

By HIS Stripes


Peace and Joy, and Health and Strength, to you and yours in The Name of The LORD Jesus Christ. Amen.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Paulino
To: schoolofdivinehealing@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: Re: SDH DG FW: prayer request forwarded to School of Divine Healing


Shalom and Welome to the Group Brother Alex!

I'll respond within the body of your letter. My stuff will be in this color (and Bold print) and I will leave yours (and the artcile you sent) as is!

Matthew 12:29 (New King James Version) Or how can one enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house.

I know this won't be popular / or well received, but there is only one who was "bound" in that passage (see definitions below). It was the blind, dumb guy. It is fairly obvious that the enemy is the one who enetered his "house" (body) and spoiled his goods. There is no evidence that Christ "bound" or "entered" into satan's house (wherever that might be) and spoiled his goods. The man was bound by demons, just like other passages refer to when speaking on demonic activity or possession. Christ is never recorded as saying to demons "I bind you". ALL HE DOES IS COMMAND THEM TO GO. All Christ tells us to do in the gospels is "cast out" demons...not bind them. Mark 16:17 In MY name they (us) shall CAST OUT DEVILS. We are never instructed or taught to BIND demons, neither do we see that happen in the Bible, unless you want to count your taking that passage and reading into it an entire doctrine not substantiated in scripture.

If we were supposed to bind them, why wouldn't Christ have said that? Why wouldn't HE have spoken that to a demon even once in the gospels? It's not in there. Why would we have to put on the whole armour of GOD that we may be able to withstand in the evil day (Ephesians 6:10-16) and take the shield of faith to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked; if all we really had to do was BIND the enemy?

In Matthew 12:29 ( the verse you cited) the pharisees and Christ HIMSELF described the work of healing the blind dumb guy as "cast out satan" . Pharises did this in verse 24, and Christ said so in verse 28.

The Greek word for "bind" in verse 29 means just that literally and figuratively. Moreover, it is also translated into English to mean- be in bonds, knit, tie, wind.
The Greek word for "cast out" means - to eject ( lit. or fig.), bring forth, cast (forth, out), drive (out), expel....

Which one (of those) does it seem like the demon did to the blind dumb guy? ...bind?
Which one does it seem like Christ did to the demon? ...cast out?
To me, the answer is clear. The enemy "binds" Luke 13:16 And ought not this daughter of Abraham, WHOM SATAN HATH BOUND... be loosed from this bond
and Christ (and we) are to "cast out" Mark 16:17 In MY Name shall they cast out devils...


Another thing that concerns me with you last statement…do you want to cast out spirits from a person with out the person fully coming to Christ and submitting his life to Him? Remember the verse seven more spirits for each spirit cast out?

Can a person "fully come to Christ" before having the demon cast out of him? These demons (at least the ones in the Bible) exhibited great control over thier subjects. I too appreciate your concerns over the "7 times worse" scenario, but at least casting the demon out of the person gives him the liberty and opportunity to choose Christ! It's hard to imagine leaving a person in that state as being a viable option, especially given the command to cast out devils, heal the sick etc... What they do after that is thier choice, but I gotta believe being delivered of such torment at The Name Of JESUS CHRIST is a great motivator to BELIEVE on HIM.
Before you attempt to respond, Ask the Holy Spirit for guidance which I did before I answered this email. Don’t approach the bible to people on your point of view, remember ... you are still in the flesh until our body are completely transformed in Christ. Presumably you mean "we" instead of "me" (are still in the flesh), but could you give me chapter and verse for that? I thought "WE" were new creatures in Christ, seated with HIM in Heavenly places, given the mind of Christ, and led by HIS Spirit.



PS. Please see below…this site helped me

Prayers for Binding Evil

This page is part of our sample prayers section

Why do we bind? Jesus commented on the need for binding evil in Matthew 12:29. Jesus explained that we must first bind the strongman before we can plunder his house. When we are facing an evil stronghold in life, we must first use our inherited authority as children of God to bind the evil forces involved. After that, we can loose, or call forth God's plans for restoration.

Aside from reading your views into this passage, can you show me anywhere in The BIBLE where a demon was bound by a believer or Jesus Christ, or where we are instructed to BIND demons? I don't know everything (as I'm sure you're well aware) but I don't believe it's in there. Show me your evidence brother, and I'll be with you!



What happens when we bind? Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them" Matthew 18:18-20 NIV



I think you summed up my response (to this) well when you wrote:

Before you attempt to respond, Ask the Holy Spirit for guidance which I did before I answered this email. Don’t approach the bible to people on your point of view,



If you would read the passage IN CONTEXT you would find out that Christ was talking about people in the church having trespassed against a brother. HE is telling us go to your brother alone first, and try to make it right. If that doesn't work, take two or more witnesses (by which every word may be established). If he still won't "hear" you, tell the church, and if that doesn't change him.... treat him as a heathen. Then HE SAYS: "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them" Matthew 18:18-20 NIV



Christ isn't even talking about "demons" here. HE is talking about people in the church!!!!

A similar passage ( effectively saying the same thing) reads Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained. (John 20:23).

Both passages seem pretty harsh towards the brethren, but it is in there.

(see Matthew 16:19 for an additional reference). Again, no mention of "demons being bound" and in context, the passage is about who do people say Christ is? There were seemingly "good responses", albeit WRONG, and then there was the TRUTH THAT our FAITH IS BUILT ON... HE IS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. Is that not what THE Church is built on...as opposed to being built on Peter. Truth will be loosed in the church and in Heaven, and lies / error will be bound in the church and in Heaven... Peter, the church (and we) are to do this. See Ananias and Saphira in Acts 5, and several other times in the New Testament lies, liars, perverters of the gospel are warned of and to be stopped...or bound, that the truth may go forth....loosed. Vines Expository Dictionary offers insight that would support that, for whatever that's worth. But alas, there is no demon mentioned in this passage either.

The Amplified Bible clarifies the meaning of binding for us. It states that binding is to "forbid and declare to be improper and unlawful."

Far beit for me to argue with a source as reputable as "The Amplified Bible", but the original language(s) suggests NO SUCH THING.

When we bind something, we declare it unlawful (or evil) based on God's word. Do you have any BIBLICAL evidence to support that statement? Presently, we are staring from a false (or unproved) assumption, it is hard to imagine reaching the TRUTH from here.

Because we stand as co-heirs in Jesus Christ, we have his authority to execute this judgment on the forces of evil (Psalm 149:5-9). Again, that passage is referring to people... specifically the nations that came against Israel. Don't get me wrong, I believe we have authority over all the wiles of the enemy, and over all his cohorts, through THE NAME of JESUS CHRIST. I am specifically addressing the issue of "binding" them vs. casting them out. Casting them out being clearly Biblical (i.e. taught, demonstrated, and commanded), and "binding them"...suspect at best

Our faith in God's word releases the power from heaven that binds (or ties up) the evil we are facing. 1 Peter 5:8 tells us the adversary, the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about seeking whom he may devour : Why didn't Peter just tell them to "bind" those demons, or just do it for them (after all, his shadow healed people!!!)???? Did he not know of this new found and powerful principle?

No, in fact Peter tells us to RESIST this roaming (not bound) adversary. Resist (in the Greek) means to stand against, i.e oppose. Notice he doesn't say BIND and Peter was given authority to Bind and Loose things in Heaven and earth. I hope he didn't forget! The Verse continues: Whom resist steadfast in the faith, knowing the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. So apparently these demons are all over the place, going to and fro (as in Job's day) and not one in the church thinks to bind these creatures.

Similarly, when we loose something on earth, we "permit and declare [it] proper and lawful on earth" Do you have any BIBLICAL Evidence for that? According to the Greek language "Loose" means - "to loosen". It is also translated into English to mean Break (up), destroy, disolve, (un)loose, melt, put off. So we are still operating under yet another "false (or unproved) assumption". I would also note that people who espouse these unfouded (yet new and exciting) doctrines are the one's who benefit from this "knowledge", and they tend to be seen as necessary to the congregation's deliverance. That is to say, without thier knowledge, which you can purchase, you won't be set free. My Bible says, whom The Son sets free is free indeed!!!!! What need have we of anything else?

Everything that we loose or bind must be in accordance with God's word. Indeed !!! and Amen.

Example applications of binding and loosing prayers

Binding the enemy's plans; loosing God's plans

This is based on the Lord's prayer in Matthew 6:10. First we bind the plans of evil in the situation we are facing in the name of Jesus Christ. Then, we call forth God's will to be done on earth as it is in heaven. "Father in heaven, I stand in faith on the authority I have as a believer in Jesus Christ, and a co-heir to his kingdom. In the name of Jesus Christ, I bind every evil spirit and every evil plan made in this situation.

So presumably then, we can continue without the enemy coming against us? To bad Paul didn't have this "revelation" in 1 Thessalonians 2:18 Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again, BUT SATAN HINDERED US, or in 2 Corinthians 12:7b...there was given me a thorn in the flesh, THE MESSENGER OF SATAN TO BUFFET ME... Don't you think Peter, Paul, the early church would have been given this quick and easy path to victory of "binding" the enemy to further the gospel if it were legitimately FROM GOD! The enemy was not "bound" then, and unfortunately he is not "bound" now. If Paul couldn't do it, I scarcely think any of us can. He had an abundance of "revelation" from GOD, for our benefit. Apparently, that was not one of them.

Simple Binding Prayer:

"Father God, I thank you for sending your Son Jesus to die for me, and resurrecting him to sit at your right hand in Heaven right now. I thank you for bestowing upon Him all power and authority over evil. In the name of Jesus Christ, I speak to any evil spirits, especially spirits of *___________ (fill in the blank), I bind you from attacking me now and throughout this day. Leave me now and go straight to Jesus Christ who will deal with you. I am covered and protected by the blood of Jesus Christ. Amen."

*Note that evil spirits often have specific functions and names. Examples of evil spirits include lust, adultery, pride, despair, strife, discouragement, condemnation, shame, hate, envy, covetousness, idolatry, homosexuality, suicide, obsession, control and witchcraft. These are just a few of the many possible spirits.

Aye! There's the rub. I knew this was where it was heading. We got involved in this sort of thing several years back. It's very exciting, it is "seemingly" powerful, and it is complete heresy. Please church, note that the aforementioned "specific functions and names" of evil spirits are ACTUALLY SINS. This is where this doctrine of demons always leads. It gets us charged up with the legitimate power over the enemy given us by Christ (that makes it appear Biblical), but subtley leads us to where we then confuse our sins for demons. All of a sudden, our sins that are to be confessed and repented of are now (under this new and unfounded doctrine) become "spirits" to be bound or even cast out. I believe the enemy is very happy to hear us cast him out or bind him up rather than confess, repent, and be forgiven. The reason is because it negates the power of the BLOOD from having it's intended effect in our lives...because we confuse our sins for evil spirits. Beware of this doctrine.

I was once steeped in pornography. That was because I wanted to see it, I lusted after it...it was my sin (See James 1:14-15). I needed to seek forgiveness, not bind or cast out a demon by that name. Go ahead, cast him out all you want, you might even "feel better" about yourself; BUT YOU WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN (1 John 1:9 ). The Bible says for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of GOD...Not : all have demons attacking and harrassing them, and fall short of the glory of GOD. The BLOOD is for forgiveness. HIS authority is to cast demons out of people (specifically, unbelievers).

This is exactly what Paul warns us about in 1 Timothy 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly. that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, GIVING HEED TO SEDUCING SPIRITS, AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS

Seducing means- roving (as a tramp), (by impl.) an imposter or misleader

Doctrines means - instruction (the function or the information)

Devils means - a demonic being

The verse continues: SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY...

Brace yourselves now:

Speaking Lies means -#5573 PSEUDO LOGOS mendacious, i.e. promulgating erroneous Christian doctrine.

Hypocrisy means - acting under a feigned part, i.e. deceit. It comes from a word that means - to decide (speak or act) under a FALSE part, i.e. dissemble (pretend)

The verse continues: HAVING THIER CONSCIENCE SEARED WITH A HOT IRON.

Seared means - to brand ("cauterize"), i.e. (by impl.) to render unsensitive

1 John 4:1a Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of GOD.

I will leave off at this point. God's wisdom to each and every one of us in JESUS' HOLY NAME. AMEN.

love carl


Saturday, July 02, 2005

Bless The LORD, O my soul, and forget not all HIS benefits, He forgives us of all our iniquities, and heals us of all our diseases. and saves our lives from destruction. Alleluia!!!!